visiting indian reservations

topic posted Mon, September 5, 2005 - 2:02 AM by  marybel
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has anyone visited any of the tribes in arizona? me and a friend are thinking of going there for a learning/spiritual experience around mid-january 2006....anyone have any recommendations?? i heard somewhere outside flagstaff is a great place and a great tribe to go visit.....???......
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marybel
Las Vegas
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  • Re: visiting indian reservations

    Tue, September 6, 2005 - 1:13 PM
    Maybe you're thinking of the Havasupai which is northwest of Flagstaff along the West Rim of the canyon. They own Havasu Falls, which is absolutely gorgeous.
    Take a look at this if you're interested in the various AZ tribes: www.itcaonline.com/

    Sorry to be cynnical about it, but you have to remember that Native Americans are not like the stereotypes that have portrayed them in the media for so long as mystics and existential individuals. They're just regular people for the most part, many of whom are trying maintain a little bit of cultural identity and dignity by infusing elements of a more traditional lifestyle. Resentment and apathy towards the gawkiness of whites are both high amongst almost all tribes. Occassionally, you will run across a tribal gathering like a pow-wow, but these are only sometimes open to the public.
    I've spent a lot of time driving around the various nations and have found the Hopi and the Acoma (NM) to be two of the most aesthetically stunning. The Navajo Nation is also interesting just in its desolation.
    One of the more famous and interesting cultural gatherings is the Pascua Yaqui Easter festival in Tucson. The Yaquis are Catholics for the most part, but have infused their own culture into those Western beliefs. This is open to the public.
    • Re: visiting indian reservations

      Sun, September 11, 2005 - 5:57 AM
      i have to agree with colin,.. most natives have lost the path that they would normally seek if they WERE on the Red Road, but due to thier past and how they were treated they have mostly nothing but resentment for the white man,.. most of the native spirit has been kept by those who can appreciate and understand the points and curves of the Red Road, skin color is of no importance anymore,.. the spirit of the red man lies within the soul
      • Re: visiting indian reservations

        Mon, September 12, 2005 - 10:59 AM
        agreed. sort of. being indian is also a heritage and has little to do with personal belief of how things are or should be. the remark about "indians" and how they were treated is segregated and biased, btw. they dont mostly have nothing but resentment. indians are not a pan tribe, each and every one is very diverse and different. but this may not be your experience. who knows. i surely would understand the resentment however...

        in any case, if you want to go out there and experience what they experience, you'll sure to have your own spiritual experience and better understand why the nations have endured and why they (many) stay on reserve. my best option for this would be canyon de chelly. mindblowing... (and you can get a native guide to take you on tour, tell you stories and invite you to their home, for a fee of course, as this is their work. sure to be a moving and everlasting experience)
  • Re: visiting indian reservations

    Mon, October 10, 2005 - 12:00 AM
    I've found most Natives to be pretty friendly if you approach them in the right way. While it is true that they are fairly assimilated and similar to the white man, there is a definite cutlural difference. Often times at different places on the reservations you'll find tribes people selling jewelry and other nick nacks to tourists. If you want to get to know something about the tribes, just strike up a conversation, ask the person about his or her craft, and feel free to ask about the land an area. Most people in almost any culture respect honesty, and if you are so you can usually find useful information. Oh, and if you do strike up a conversation with one of these salespeople, TRY to find a piece of their craft that you like and buy it. It is afterall how these people make their living.
    -Allen
  • Re: visiting indian reservations

    Wed, October 12, 2005 - 3:33 PM
    I am Cherokee/Shawnee...

    I have been to theres. of many Nations but my lifes' hobby has been studing messages from the past.

    There are areas throughout this country where time has seemingly stood still. Areas that have not had a human footprint in the sand for years.

    But yet there are stories to be told. The stories are written in stone left by the old ones that traveled before us.

    Stories that are told by the artifacts and treasures left behind, at old indian camps, caves, mining camps, ghost towns and petroglyphs.

    Stories from the treasures left behind in old mining camps and ghost towns. Each new discovery is as exciting as the first. Come join me on my journey.

    Remember: When visiting these sites it is in violation of federal law to take native artifacts, destroy, or deface these acient drawings.

    If you are caught it is punishable with Fines Or Imprisonment Or Both. Be kind to these sites. If you carry it in, carry it out. Please do not leave trash behind.

    If you have an interest in one of these journeys drop me a line.

    Anitsasgiliwaya

    Group/Photos Page:
    groups.yahoo.com/group/art...andglyphs/


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